[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="33" id="3053771"]but rather their sexual behavior, homosexuality,[/quote] Then why do you advocate against them having certain rights and privileges that have absolutely nothing to do with sexual behavior? As if the sexual behavior of people you don't even know is any of your business anyhow.
[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="858" id="3053463"]The focus of my argument is believing in God, not in adopting a particular religion[/quote] However you specifically stated religion and you cannot use the two interchangeably since many religions do not include a belief in God(s). [quote who="Seleuceia" reply="858" id="3053463"]Different religions acknowledge varying degrees of free will, and in some cases salvation is clearly and explicitly dissociated from choice (as in the ca
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="29" id="3053235"]It encouraged wholesale promiscuity and marital infidelity throughout the culture.[/quote] Wholesale promiscuity didn't start in the 60's. All you have to do is read your Bible to understand something as simple as that. [quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="29" id="3053235"]How else does contraception lead to abortion?[/quote] It doesn't lead to abortion so how else is not the question.
[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="855" id="3053258"]You are not understanding what I am saying, but that is okay...my point has nothing to do with what religion you are brought up and is not by any means comparable to "people are the product of the environment".[/quote] I totally understand what you stated. You stated that believing in any particular religion is not a choice and I strongly disagree. Of course it is something that is is a product of one's environment and life experienc
[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="850" id="3052759"]religion is not really a choice per se as much as it is the product of life experience[/quote] It is just as much a choice as most things are. Even the Bible says that . People may be born into a certain religion however we all have the choice at some point in our lives to decide whether to put our faith in those that taught that religion or to put our faith elsewhere and move on to some ot
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="61" id="3053186"]ey talking Kirk and company or what hahaha?[/quote] Where did the the so called philosopher of biology and mathematician get their degrees? Liberty University?
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="846" id="3052718"]I'm not allowed to condemn another's belief system be it religion or atheism? [/quote] Maybe it is because you have no idea what you are condemning? Atheism means one thing and one thing only. The belief that no God exists. It has nothing to do with some imaginary set of beliefs that you wish to paint a stereotype on others with. The range of beliefs that individual atheists have probably vary as much or more than those of all
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="12" id="3052666"]Marriage was established by Almighty God in the garden of Paradise.[/quote] Marriage was created by men who wanted to control who could and couldn't marry and to make sure that the couple and their offspring would be throwing their coin into their offering plates instead of elsewhere.
[quote who="Rightwinger" reply="11" id="3052633"]Wooow; my, my...look at all that hate. Thanks for proving my point so handily.[/quote] She did say: [quote who="Rightwinger" reply="11" id="3052633"]not that you yourself deserved to be treated that way. [/quote] So although you wish your point was being proved you certainly don't understand the difference between debate,discourse,disagreement and hate. [quote who="Rightwinger" reply="10" id="3052629"]I don&#
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="24" id="3052351"]I happened to learn this truth that contraception leads to abortion from Catholic Church teaching, so what?[/quote] Because it is not the truth. The use of contraceptives help prevent pregnancy so prevent many situations where some may consider having an abortion. Abstinence does not work for everyone and when someone realizes that than they understand why many people advocate comprehensive sex ed courses. Personally I think sex ed in s
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="6" id="3052492"]What they do" is no longer just between them and Almighty God when the instition of Marriage is changed to accommodate what they do.[/quote] They want the right to civil marriage not religious marriage, so God really has nothing to do with it and they are not asking to change the institution of marriage as you see it in religious terms.
[quote who="ChuckUSA1" reply="1" id="3049332"]Why do we allow political correctness to only go one way?[/quote] Maybe it is because the LGBT crowd is not trying to deny the straight crowd such things as hospital visitation rights, pension and VA benefits, adoption rights etc. [quote who="ChuckUSA1" reply="1" id="3049332"]And really, don't gays pretty much disagree with how I live my life[/quote] Most probably really don't care how you live your life. There is a
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="16" id="1493893"]I know that contraceptive technology leads to abortion because of Catholic teachings[/quote] Well maybe you should look elsewhere for the truth since both abortion and contraceptives predate not only the Catholic Church but also the birth of Christ....by several centuries.
[quote]If the UK did not socialize its medicine, there would not have been a need to steal from the rich, the greedy rich would not have had to move out of the UK to protect their wealth and Mr. Lennon would not have had to live in New York allowing him to get murdered.[/quote] Unfortunately you make an assumption about John Lennon that is not true. He did not move to America to protect his wealth or because of the UK's health system. John Lennon initially got a visa in 1971 to fi
[quote]Every government that has gone the socialist way has failed its people. Nowhere in history have we found that it works.[/quote] It's tyranny and/or imperialistic over expansion that caused some of the governments you mentioned (as well as many others throughout history) to fail not the underlying economic system. As to a few of the other countries you mention who are currently having economic woes,,,,,,they have mixed economies similar to our economic system.
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="19" id="3051642"]Santorum has resurrected contraception as taboo[/quote] Well its easy to ignore the reality of the issue when you make over a million annually so you can actually provide for any number of children. At what point do religious zealots realize that sexual desire is innate in humans? It's written in our DNA for good reason (to reproduce) but we no longer live in an agrarian society where being fruitful and multiplying actuall
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="457" id="3051488"]What are we waiting for and why isn’t anything being done now?[/quote] What exactly do you propose doing? There are no simple solutions to the problems we face and no easy way to change the direction of foreign policy. I am not saying we should stand for the status quo, but there are at least two sides to every single issue and a certain amount of people are affected negatively going in either direction. It seems very difficul
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="455" id="3051373"]We have voted these people in (like we had viable choices)[/quote] That's exactly the problem. We are not given viable choices. I choose George Carlin's philosophy. I am now simply a spectator watching and waiting for the the circus to collapse. If you haven't already take a look at the "Speaking Freely" series on Netflix. The two with Ray McGovern and Chalmers Johnston involve foreign policy, but the other two with J
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="440" id="3047310"]This is as close as I have found to my ideas and I think we all agree that a lack of applied intelligence was evident before, throughout and after 911.[/quote] Yes.... They hid as much as they could mainly for political reasons, to either hide poor decision making or to hide decisions made using reasons that may not be considered politically correct.
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="437" id="3045238"]My pilot is a professional also you know …?[/quote] Because he's a pilot. It is people within the intelligence services that know what happened. [quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="437" id="3045238"]discovered that the Jeddah consulate was being used as a place for funneling Afghan mujahedeen into the U.S. for training, facilitated by the CIA on behalf of their asset, Osama bin Laden. “ What’s up with this? [/quote
[quote who="myfist0" reply="55" id="3043885"]George is the most brilliant comic eva[/quote] Too bad cutting through the BS like he did doesn't work in politics.
George Carlin - Dealing with BS Part 2 [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=tDcqlmF0OR4[/video]
George Carlin - Dealing with BS Part 1 [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLSWD6OLEs0&feature=related[/video]
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="51" id="3043436"]Now I don't know how anyone capable of reading a reasonable dictionary could attach one and only one definition to it[/quote] Just watch certain media outlets. I tend to receive that sort of propaganda filtered through The Colbert Report so I know not take it too seriously. [e digicons]:grin:[/e]
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="435" id="3043420"]Are you aware of how many times you used the word "exactly" in this paragraph ... way too many.[/quote] That word is used that many times purposely. We are talking about career agents in the intelligence services who had extensive access to raw intelligence. Some of the whistle-blowers I have seen accounts from were people whose job was to prepare the reports for the higher ups. Richard Clark who worked for the Sate Dept. in various
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