[quote who="Sinperium" reply="889" id="3056601"]That's a nice, general reply that assumes a lot of specifics and depends on those assumptions to remain a valid argument. "Most people"--that you have talked to? Statistically in the population? That you read about on the internet? That you imagine?[/quote] General? No it is actually quite specific. I am referring to my personal interactions with friends, colleagues,the people who come knocking at my door from time to time
[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="76" id="3056589"]so stick to those instead of critiquing the theory because of its advocates or associations....[/quote] Unfortunately although my personal interests in the subject matter do include scientific and philosophical enlightenment I do not expect many of the questions I have to be answered "overnight", so I also have an interest in the advocates and lobbyists who are trying to force this kind of crap into the public education system which is so
[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="76" id="3056589"]Any theory regarding abiogenesis must explain not only how life arises, but what drives that process...intelligent design argues that God was needed to drive that particular[/quote] Abiogenesis is the scientific study of how organic life arises from inorganic matter from natural processes not super
[quote who="MortalKhrist" reply="886" id="3056575"]Sounds like some weak willed compromisers made up that idea.[/quote] Sounds like the game was intelligently designed by Will Wright to prevent sales from being boycotted by some overzealous consumer group or competitors posing as such.
[quote who="Sinperium" reply="885" id="3056562"]It's amazing that how people who have not had an experience and can't imagine it are experts on what it is.[/quote] Why does it take having the experience to explain it? Most people I have talked to about their so-called experience can't quite explain what they have experienced if they are even willing to try to explain it. Interesting that most think you need to join or attend a church so that you can attain such a divine re
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="10" id="3056399"]Unfortunately, we do not have a real choice in my state[/quote] You can always choose a write in. That way even if you know they won't win, in a few years nobody can blame you for making the wrong choice and you can be confident that nobody can even come close to disputing that your choice wouldn't have been a much better choice.
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="73" id="3056536"]What I offered more than answered your question.[/quote] What you offered was propaganda that is very easily proven to be incorrect and quite contrary to the FACTS. You offered something that is not even as worthy of consideration as somebody's opinion might be.
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="71" id="3056401"]There is a HUGE difference. You only have to look at the situations to see one is unjust, the other completely immoral.[/quote] There certainly are huge differences, but there are also similarities. Back in the day many of the things we now consider immoral and unjust were not viewed that way. However don't narrow your side of the argument to just slavery. I included woman's rights as well and even today many religions including some
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="8" id="3056405"]But the TP is a reflective response to what people saw as the coming excesses [/quote] I was simply pointing out the origins of the movement, not on differences in views between the RP and TP .After all the Tea Party is a movement not a political party. Not to mention the Libertarian Party which "markets" many of their candidates under the RP Brand for various reasons. Personally I'm not much for tags anymore although they are useful for
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012 In an executive statement to the Senate (11/17/11) President Obama expressed his administration's opposition to the provision as follows: "The Administration strongly objects to the military custody provision, which would appear to mandate military custody for a certain class of terrorism suspects." The White House threatened to veto the Senate version of the Act,<sup id="cite_ref-whitehou
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="7" id="3055785"]Santorum seems to have a similar agenda[/quote] Great Clip. Typical hypocrisy. He states the current administration is doing nothing, Then states he doesn't know what they are doing and hopes maybe they are doing some of the things we are seeing happening. DOH At least Romney waits until the next speech to contradict himself. Not to mention the whole "sanction game" and resulting "shouting match" occurring as he
[quote who="Anthony R" reply="4" id="3055736"]you've also bought into this whole bogus class warfare argument[/quote] Actually I was born into a society where class "warfare" as you call it has always existed . It exists in almost every society I know except maybe some of the tribal areas of places like Papua New Guinea. In places like that they simply have tribal warfare. In most modern societies you have classes of one sort or anot
[quote who="Anthony R" reply="2" id="3055530"]some actual understanding about jobs and their creation, unlike Huntsman[/quote] I don't adhere to your "understanding about jobs and their creation" line of BS. Venture capital is about creating individual wealth for the investors not about creating jobs. Both Huntsman and Romney have Gov. experience and Huntsman actually did well enough to win two terms. If you want data on how politicians foster job creation from within government t
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="68" id="3055543"]I'm going to answer this by quoting an article by Abiding Truth Ministries. The author is Scott Lively. Sorry I don't have the date.[/quote] I wouldn't expect you to provide anything more than some piece of propaganda to try to write off the existence of bigotry in the case. Maybe you should have looked at actual court testimony. One of the defendants pleaded guilty and the other tried to present some kind of gay pan
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="65" id="3055470"]Couldn't agree more. Gay Marriage Attorney Ted Olson [/quote] Solicitor General in the Bush Administration no less. Go figure.DOH How does the FOX crowd miss such things airing on FOX? Must be because they show the real substantive stuff like this on Sunday morning while they are off experiencing different programming.
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="63" id="3055432"]Take your case to court again if you wish ... but you will never win this ridiculous plight of yours in the public domain.[/quote] They won't ultimately win in court either. Ted Olsen who represented Bush in Bush v. Gore was on Bush's short lists for AG as well as the Supreme Court. He not only openly supports gay marriage, but also believes banning it is unconstitutional and is one of the lawyers working against the Prop 8 law i
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="62" id="3055425"]and a Constitutional amendment yea right[/quote] Well they are "strict constructionists".....We will construct the constitution to strictly adhere to our doctrine if it not constructed strictly enough already.
[quote]Huntsman to me is like a white Obama who speaks Chinese.[/quote] What makes you think that and since when is speaking additional languages not a good thing? Particular when it the language used by a country with which we have a very complex political and economic relationship? Maybe you should look at Huntman's record as Gov of Utah. When I looked it over it seems to be for the most part fiscally and socially conservative with a few blemishes. Romney is all over the map. Ha
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="60" id="3055398"]The homosexuals and their advocates know it's not about unjust discrimination. The reason they want special rights is becasue these laws normalize and affirm homosexuality in society. They send a clear message that society no longer (as did those times before the sexual revolution) believes that there is anything wrong with homosexuality and that those who still think there is should be punished. This is where fines and lawsuits come in. [/
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="58" id="3055381"]Exactly, people with unchangeable characteristics who have suffered provable harm as a result of unjust discrimination have been given minority status as a civil right.[/quote] So what was done to people like Matthew Shepard is "just" discrimination? How do you explain that one away or similar cases which may or may not be as widely known?
[quote who="Rightwinger" reply="55" id="3055295"]They can't get married[/quote] You do know that there are rights and protections that are afforded to people through civil marriage don't you? If you do then saying that they have the same rights is blatantly false. If you don't than you should research the laws of civil marriage to get your facts straight.
[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="53" id="3055271"]which is intrinsically disordered and against the natural law since the body parts don't fit[/quote] What about the natural laws of lets say biochemistry? I certainly know that my feelings and desires are very much controlled by biochemistry. I also suspect that others are very much influenced in the same way by their own particular biochemistry which may have very distinct effects resulting from very subtle differences.
[quote who="Rightwinger" reply="51" id="3055239"]Quoting lulapilgrim, reply 42 Homosexuals already have the same legal rights and protections that others are afforded. What they want is special rights based on their so called "sexual orientation" which is homosexuality. I missed this earlier; you're exactly right[/quote] Does your sister believe she has the same legal rights and protections others are afforded? Dick Cheney's daughter, Newt Gingr
[quote who="Rightwinger" reply="48" id="3055231"]What about them? [/quote] Why don't you ask yourself? The correlation between those movements and the current topic should be obvious....for those willing to think for themselves.
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