Deference

Deference

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Reply to Do Democrats hate America (or at least don't like it much)? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Nonsense. Find any evidence to support that. Clinton was President for 8 years. - Draginol Apples and Oranges, Draginol. Anyway, it's becoming more and more apparent to me you're simply trying to find any excuse to keep the state of things permanent. The question was pretty straight forward: Is America a fair and decent country? - Draginol I think it's a misnomer to call the somewhat inspecific and highly subjective question 'stra

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Reply to TAXES-Do we pay enough? in Politics JoeUser Forums

The reason for such a poor rate of return is that taxes are simply government led pyramid schemes. They have to pay people at various levels to distribute the money. - Gideon I'm certain that is part of the problem but I really think the major issue is that our government spends our money on things average citizens don't see a return on. Such as Military Spending. It's debated we are currently spending a little over 60% of our budget on military spending alone.<

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Reply to Do Democrats hate America (or at least don't like it much)? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Wow, Draginol, where did this come from? I doubt Democrats 'hate America' or 'think it sucks' simply because they are critical of it. Those that turn a criticism in to smear probably have an agenda. Let's keep in mind the majority of the country; the Legislative, Executive and almost the majority of the Supreme Court is Republican controlled / represented at the time of the Rasmussen poll. Had it been Democratically con

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Reply to How I see what a Moderate Republican is. in Philosophy JoeUser Forums

the proof in how far my beloved DNC has slipped one need to look no further than the defeat of Joe lieberman. - ModerateMan Those are the voters ditching Leiberman, and probably because of his stand on Iraq. Expect to see that issue continue to hurt many incumbents on both sides of the aisle.

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Reply to America will lose the war if we don't play dirty in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

I have no problem with leaving Iraq, none at all. - ModerateMan Hell yes. I second that notion. Our captured military already are being treated totally inhumanly. - ModerateMan Yes. Good point. Hard to argue w / that. I would still stand that I believe us not acting to the standard of 'Ronnie's' 'Shining City on the Hill' would simply encourage and hasten a 'gurantee' of our soldiers' abuse at the hands of a

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Reply to Sex Before Marriage ! in Religion JoeUser Forums

Semantics and the splitting of hairs. Please excuse, I am not always the most clear. Allow me to more accurately re-phrase my thought. I believe fornication is more a perceived sin because of some religious dogma that has little to do with what Christ taught or what the Bible has to offer as footnotes to the Ten Commandments in chapters written by men. I am not promoting promiscuity, I am stating I've found lack of consistency within the bible (alone) and some rel

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Reply to Whistleblower Coming In Cold From in History JoeUser Forums

Keep spreading the word. There are mountains of information to comb through and it will be a while before everyone is able to digest it all, but the more talk about there is the more accurate a picture people will have of 9/11.

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Reply to America will lose the war if we don't play dirty in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

I'd rather us WIN first and worry about 'morality' later. - LW If we keep playing nice guys we are going to lose. - MM I understand you feel we may 'lose' if we cease our occupation of Iraq, MM. So could you define for me 'Winning'? LW, what is Winning the Conflict in Iraq? 'Cause when we know we've won, we've a fair idea of when we can leave. You remember what Draginol said, we've already won by

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Reply to America will lose the war if we don't play dirty in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

I don't believe in giving our government the ability to torture people. It would be a gurantee our soldiers would consistently face the worst treatment by any enemy if captured. The lowering of the standard of military conduct would eventually trickle down to local police forces, which could end up with forced confessions and justice perverted. One last thing, the tactics you've described could lead to increased

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Reply to Glorifying Recreational Drug Use! in Misc JoeUser Forums

I've tried every drug I've ever wanted and sated my curiousity. Drugs don't lead to illumination, nor do they particularly help spur creative juices, nor do they make you smarter, help you work better or see better. Believe it or not, some of the above reasons have been spouted by some users to me. To those I say, "Look, I tried, and I know, and you're full of shit." There is only one reason to take certain illegal drugs and that is for recreational purposes - at th

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Reply to A New World Order is comming huh?? in US Domestic JoeUser Forums

Gideon, I would take your word on it, as you are sensible, but you're going to have to give me more then Soros and Michael Moore somehow control a non-profit group I'm a member of and am active in. How exactly do Soros and Moore 'control' Moveon? Simple question, I'm sure you've an illuminating response. 'Members of the far left' is inspecific and seems to teeter on the edge of fearmongering. Around JU 'far left' often seems to be applied to anyone not in agreeance with the wishes

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